There’s A Whole Other Reality That Surrounds Us

Since 1947, the CIA and UFOs have been interlinked together. People who used to work for the CIA and for the US military have since made shocking statements about UFOs. These statements have been a driving force in UFO research. R. James Woolsey, Derrel Sims, Lue Elizondo, David Fravor, and other former CIA and US military officials have discussed how the UFO phenomenon could be linked to the fact that there is a lot of reality around us that we can’t see.

In recent times on the George Knapp show, two veteran CIA officers, Jim Semivan and John Ramirez, debated about the CIA’s involvement in the investigation of UFOs and their own personal experiences with UFOs, or Unidentified Aerial Phenomena. After working for the CIA for 25 years, Jim Semivan went to Tom Delonge’s To the Stars Academy with other people who had worked for the government. He went into depth and discussed how he was elected to the CIA and mastered spycraft, which takes years to master. The “Need-to-Know” principle is followed by the CIA, so this was the reason that Semivan was unaware that the CIA was doing UFO studies, despite the fact that CIA analyst Kit Green was well known for his interest in the paranormal.

It all started in 1990, when Semivan and his wife had their own encounters with aliens in their bedroom, as Semivan recounted on Coast to Coast AM show. He stated that it was a real encounter and not a state of trance. Paranormal activities were observed by both Semivan and his wife in their house. Recently, Semivan claimed to have seen a hooded figure resembling the Death Eater character from Harry Potter, who may have appeared to foretell the death of a close friend. Semivan agreed with the statements made by Skinwalker Ranch researcher Colm Kelleher that the UFO phenomenon is a lot more than nuts and bolts and machines. There are also psychic and biological elements that make things even weirder. He noted that Star’s examination of “meta-materials” with odd isotopic ratios that could be linked to UFOs was still going on.

“I think they mention that the phenomenon is a natural part of our universe, and we’re living in it but we don’t recognize it. The same way that insects and animals don’t recognize the human universe. A cat and a dog could be running through a library, but they don’t have the faintest idea what the books are all about and what libraries are all about. We might be walking through our existence and there’s a whole other reality that surrounds us that we just simply don’t have the ability to see or interact with.”

“It seems to be peeking inside our little consensus reality. As I explained to somebody once, it comes close, it teases us, it cajoles us, it lies to us, but you can never take it home to meet the parents. It won’t allow you to do that. There’s no formal introduction. Add on top that there’s no ontology, which is just a fancy word, it basically means there’s no structure to even discuss this. We don’t have a common lexicon. Somebody said we have dots but no connections. I don’t even think we have dots.”

Semivan said this during the first half of the interview

In the second half of the Coast to Coast AM show, CIA veteran John Ramirez, an expert on ballistic missile defense systems with 25 years of service, was featured. There he detailed his life-long interest in spycraft and how, in 1984, he transitioned from the Navy to the CIA. Even though his sources for reports were largely unknown, he likened his work as an intelligence analyst to that of a journalist at a news organization.

Ramirez claimed that he was also a victim of alien abduction similar to Semivan. He even said that once he was placed on an observation table in a circular aircraft. He further revealed that a number of his CIA and NSA colleagues have also experienced UFO encounters. While he was serving in a job related to missile defense, he became aware of the fact that at times when Russian radar would trace an unidentified flying object (UAP), they tried to coax them into landing.

According to Ramirez, CIA historian Gerald Haines wrote about the CIA’s UFO studies from 1947 to the 1990s for a division that was initially called the Office of Scientific Intelligence. The division consisted of life sciences and medical professionals. This seemed to be interesting to Ramirez, as it suggested the division’s potential interest in extraterrestrial bodies.

Additionally, he said that while flying near Kamchatka to monitor Russian testing, an Air Force pilot saw a giant “milky white wall” of light rushing toward him at 6,200 mph, which the Air Force suspected was a Russian countermeasure. Ramirez says he doesn’t believe Russia or any other foreign government has the ability to produce the kind of antigravity technology similar to military sightings of “trans-medium” UAP like the Tic Tacs.

“This is something we’ve been dealing with for a long time. Imagine the first person to get on a boat and sail over the horizon. There’s stories of sea monsters and Krakens that will devour you and destroy your boat. Yet, we did it anyways. We did sail, and we explored the world. It turns out, 500 years later, there really are sea monsters. We call them the Great Squid of the Pacific, and great white sharks and whales.

Now they’re just part of nature and have a scientific name, but those sea monsters still exist. They’re there, we just learned to understand them. Maybe this is the same thing. Maybe this is just another expedition over the horizon where we’re going to realize what we thought were monsters are really just neighbors.”

Lue Elizondo’s answer on being asked how our senses are reductive and limit our reality, and how this might be relevant to the phenomenon

Interestingly, in context of the reality of the phenomenon, Garry Nolan, Lue Elizondo, Tom DeLonge, and Jacques Vallee had pretty similar opinions.